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Discussion in 'Jobs & Careers' started by Queenie, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Queenie

    Queenie New Member

    Hi,

    I've recently moved to Brissie after being in Sydney for a year. I have years of experience in both IT and Customer Service, however, I've been on a career break raising my kids. I have applied for hundreds of jobs that I'm more than qualified for, but have yet to get an interview (I'm lucky if I get a response at all). Has anybody else had any problems? My hubby is the 457 holder but I have rights to work as his spouse.
     
  2. srp

    srp No longer active member

    Hi I found this on our Parent site "PomsInOz" I hope it may be helpful, its designed to help with compiling Australian CV's

    Do not get despondent when you do not get a reply, that is common in Australia , I know its annoying but they tend to reply to successful applicants and forget the rest
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2012
  3. Queenie

    Queenie New Member

    Thanks Colin,

    That's really helpful.
     
  4. bacardi167

    bacardi167 New Member

    Queenie,
    Now i know this may sound very "un-PC" but i had exactly the same problem. I applied for many jobs as a qualified fitter and had VERY few replies. The one i did get all came to nothing when i spoke to the employer / agency on the phone.
    I thought i was being paranoid, but this is what i did.
    I went back through my CV and removed all traces of coming from England, Being a new resident etc from it. I listed just company names and not addresses in the Uk and created an Australian E-mail account with 3play.
    I highlighted the fact that I was and permanent resident, but didnt say how long i was here...you get the idea?
    I then sent this out to various jobs and agencies, and i found it was a lot more succesfull !!!
    I was eventually (my 2nd job) employed as en Engineering Manager for a large multi national firm, where i am happy.
    I raised this point with my state manager about a year ago and his response shocked me a bit. He told me he is VERY happy with what i have done and how much i have improved the facility. He also admitted that, had he received my CV and seen that i was English, he wouldnt have even got me in for an interview. Apparently us Pom's have a bad reputation for letting people down blah blah blah. He would how-ever employ a German / Swiss person.
    this is based on his previous experiences with English people !!
    Its bad isnt it?!! I would possibly expect that sort of comment from a fork truck driver or shelf stacker, NOT from a State Manager.
    We actually get along very well and he make a point of coming and saying good morning to me ever day, since i bailed them out in the floods.!!

    Now, before everyone on here crucifies me...I KNOW that not all Australians think or act like this !!!
    But my point is..i sent my revised CV to agencies that had previously ignored me AND jobs i had previously not got a response from, and got a response from the majority.
    Maybe this is something you may want to think about doing. Australians much prefer to employ other Australians; and there's nothing wrong with that.
    I must add before the abuse starts, that i never had this problem in Sydney or Melbourne when i was travelling before. Maybe its a trait of living in Brisbane / Queensland? I'd be intrested to see if anyone else has experienced this, or if its a one off.

    Again..I know its not PC and i dont believe all Australians ar like this...Just an experience that may help you..

    Now..I'm off to get my tin hat before it rains abuse !!!

    Good luck and let me know how you get on !
     
  5. Queenie

    Queenie New Member

    Mmmm that's interesting, I'll give it a go. I still have an issue with residency though as we are on a 457 and can't go permie for another 2 years (hubby being sponsored through work).
     
  6. srp

    srp No longer active member

    All's fair in love and war..... and job hunting....:wink:
     
  7. Hi Bacardi 167

    Im having the same problem as queenie after being in oz six months I got offered a job in Adelaide the week we where moving to gold coast, and since we have been here I have applied for at least 50 jobs and have had one interview, got told I was perfect for the job then gave it to someone else. I have considered doing what you mentioned removing all traces of being from the UK as it's what I think is not getting me anywhere. I have over 15 years exp in bookkeeping and accountancy good ref everything done the myob etc, I really can't believe that every job I apply for there is someone more qualified or better suited to the position. Everyone I speak even the aussies to can't believe I can't even get a
    receptionist job it must be the only thing!
     
  8. Queenie

    Queenie New Member

    Hi Nicmanchester,

    Just a quick update, I went to a skills centre last week and was more or less told that while I'm a temporary resident, I have no chance as Queenslanders are very protective and will always employ their own before an outsider. I was also told that if I wanted to take any courses, it would cost me a fortune as I would be charged as an overseas student. My only option is to temp, which is very difficult when you have a child in daycare only 2 days a week, to put him in full time is a real risk with most temp jobs only lasting 6 weeks at a time.

    Apparently it's a good way to start though, as once you have some kind of work history, people are more likely to want to employ you so maybe give that a try, I think I'm going to hang fire until my son starts school in January and maybe temp then.
     
  9. bacardi167

    bacardi167 New Member

    Queenie
    I think you are right regarding the employment thing. basically you need to get your foot in the door and once you've done that you'll have more luck
    You are basically starting life all over again and many employers may just see a holiday maker who wants a job short term. I've found it does get easier after the first 18 months or so, once you've established yourself a bit and can show you are not just "passing through".
    I can understand it from an employers point of view as when I'm taking on skilled people i dont want to be re-training every 6 months because people have moved on.
    At least if you do temp and the company are happy with you, you normally get first refusal at any positions that become available.
    Good luck and hope it goes well
    B.
     
  10. fish.01

    fish.01 Member

    I work in IT in Brisbane. Companies I have worked in have people of all nationalities. My current employer has plenty of Brits, Kiwis, Americans, Indians, Irish, South Americans, Africans, Russians, Germans etc etc. I think removing the overseas feel from your CV is good not because Australians want to just employ Australians, but because they want to employ people committed to the city (Of course a minority of employees will discriminate like anywhere). The goal is to reduce retraining as many companies have had prior experience of people leaving them suddenly to return home after being trained/integrated.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2012
  11. clueless

    clueless Guest

    ambivalent

    Hi all. Just cruising through the threads and it seems that all the expats have basically the same probs finding jobs there. Good luck to you all. I just got back from a trip to Brisbane last week and I have decided that I do want to make a move there. I don't necessarily need a job outright as I do own a company which is based in the USA but which I run from a home office anywhere in the world. I just want to hear everyone's 10 cents of advice on what visa is best. Mind, I do have an aunt who is an Australian citizen who said she'd sponsor me and my kids. I just want to make this move stress free. Tks in adv.
     
  12. Wendy

    Wendy Guest

    If you are not getting any interviews it could be your CV. I'm a recruiter so I do know about these things! -:)

    A CV should match the job applied for - 'one size wont fit' all jobs applied for. Do a one page cover letter also and ensure you address the criteria in the job advert. [This is where you sell yourself!]

    Check out CV preparation on Google - there is a wealth of info out there. Not sure where you are from but in Australia a CV should start with the most recent role and go back to earlier ones. And don't give more than 10 years of experience. Don't include age/religion/interests/marital status/school details [but do include technical and uni quals though].

    Good luck.

    Wendy.
     
  13. Mrsbrown

    Mrsbrown Banned

    Did you get a job? My husband is in IT and he is concerned after reading this.
     
  14. Lifes Good

    Lifes Good Guest

    Hi Bacardi 167

    I have been on the Gold Coast for 3 months and have been having the same issues as you. Applying for nearly every job I can on a daily basis. I have good references and a long history in Office Management incl Bookkeeping, staff management etc. I even took the streets and asked at all the shops in our local malls but the only one I got offered wanted me to work late nights and weekends which is no good when you have two school aged children and after school care does not stretch to the weekends.


    Being from NZ is probably a big cross against me and taking some of the advice on previous posts I tried to take out mention of NZ in my CV but rather hard to do when it's in the company name!!

    There are so many jobs advertised but obviously there must be a lot of very skilled people out there looking for work also.

    Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated
     

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